{"id":3322,"date":"2015-02-11T19:43:18","date_gmt":"2015-02-12T02:43:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/?p=3322"},"modified":"2016-03-10T11:58:04","modified_gmt":"2016-03-10T19:58:04","slug":"fundamental-reality-xii-the-good-and-the-not","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/fundamental-reality-xii-the-good-and-the-not\/","title":{"rendered":"Fundamental Reality XII: The Good, and the Not"},"content":{"rendered":"<p lang=\"en\">It is not surprising that the Laws of Physics don&#8217;t have anything to say about <a title=\"Fundamental Reality XI: What's Right is Right\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/fundamental-reality-xi-whats-right-is-right\/\">right and wrong<\/a>, given that the world they describe is an abstraction from our own.\u00a0 Physics describes the world in one aspect, as a pattern of interlocking relationships, but it doesn&#8217;t tell us what are the actual entities in those relationships, and what their meaning and signficance is.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\">If there are any moral truths at all, then reality has to combine them with other facts in a unified way.\u00a0 Physical truths and moral truths, considered in isolation, are just abstractions from the actual reality, but real situations contain elements of both.\u00a0 Furthermore, since you can&#8217;t derive an \u201cOught\u201d statement from a a purely factual \u201cIs\u201d statement, the moral aspects of reality must be present in the fundamental principles of reality, whatever they are.\u00a0 (Here I am using Hume&#8217;s <em>Is-Ought<\/em> dictum in a manner which he would have thoroughly disapproved of!)\u00a0 This type of argument is a form of the <a title=\"Is it possible to be good without God?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/is-it-possible-to-be-good-without-god\/\">Argument from Ethics<\/a><em> <\/em>(also called the Moral Argument) for the existence of God.\u00a0 It is similar to the <a title=\"Fundamental Reality III: Chains, Parsimony, and Magic\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/fundamental-reality-iii-chains-parsimony-and-magic\/\">Cosmological Argument<\/a> except that it involves tracing back <a title=\"Fundamental Reality X: Theories of Ethics\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/fundamental-reality-x-theories-of-ethics\/\">ethical reasons<\/a> rather than <a title=\"Fundamental Reality II: Causes and Explanations\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/fundamental-reality-ii-causes-and-explanations\/\">physical causes<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\">Notice also that the concept of good is more fundamental than the concept of evil.\u00a0 There is an asymmetry here.\u00a0 In every situation where we identify something as evil, there is some good behind it which is perverted or threatened by that evil.\u00a0 For example, if it is wrong to inflict unnecessary pain on a dog, that is because the dog is itself something good and valuable, so that something which harms it is an evil.\u00a0 Existence, sensation, consciousness, will, and knowledge are all themselves inherently good and desirable things.\u00a0 It is only when these things exist that evil can also exist, parasitically.<\/p>\n<p>This lends support to something like the Platonic view of reality, in which all goodness is derivative from a fundamental type of goodness. Although aspects of a Kantian or Aristotelian outlook could be included as well, both men being theists after all.\u00a0 (This \u201cPlatonic\u201d view of Ethics should be distinguished from another idea attributed to Plato, that <em>all <\/em>abstract concepts correspond to their own \u201cPlatonic Form\u201d.\u00a0 Here I am only concerned only with the transcendent reality of goodness.)<\/p>\n<p>But now observe that morality is at least a little bit like a mind, insofar as it approves or favors certain things, and disapproves or disfavors other things.\u00a0 So a fundamental morality would have something analogous to <em>will <\/em>or <em>desire<\/em>, and in that respect it would be <a title=\"Fundamental Reality VI: Comparison of the Finalists\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/fundamental-reality-vi-comparison-of-the-finalists\/\">more like a mind than like an equation<\/a>, as in Theism.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\">And indeed, if we are <a title=\"Fundamental Reality V: Some Candidates, and a Math Test\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/fundamental-reality-v-some-candidates-and-a-math-test\/\">Monotheists<\/a>, then it is not possible to have one Ultimate Fact, and a distinct Ultimate Goodness, as two separate and independent principles not joined together by any common tie.\u00a0 They must be rooted in one and the same Ultimate Being.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\">Conversely, if we conclude for other reasons (e.g. the Argument from Consciousness) that the Ultimate Being is something like a mind, then this being&#8217;s desires would be rooted in the fundamental nature of reality, and would therefore be objective in a way that our desires are not.\u00a0 Such a being&#8217;s desires would therefore potentially be capable of grounding morality, since there would be a notion of <em>ought<\/em> that transcends our own wishes and desires, and exists <a title=\"Fundamental Reality IV: Necessity, Eternity, and Power\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/fundamental-reality-iv-necessity-eternity-and-power\/\">necessarily<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Before anyone even tries to throw the <a href=\"http:\/\/classics.mit.edu\/Plato\/euthyfro.html\">Euthyphro dilemma<\/a> at me, let me observe that this dilemma was introduced into philosophy <em>by Plato<\/em>, as an (indirect, Socratic) argument for<em> Platonic Monotheism<\/em>!\u00a0 When Socrates asked whether good actions are pious because the gods love them, or whether the gods love them because they are pious, he was highlighting an absurdity in the idea that morality could be connected to the collective will of multiple, finite beings who (like us) are not the most fundamental entity in the Universe.\u00a0 How the dilemma mutated into its current existence as a standard tool in the arsenal of Atheism, I don&#8217;t know.\u00a0 But if God IS the fundamental principle of goodness, then he neither commands it arbitrarily, nor is he beholden to any more fundamental ethical principle outside of himself.\u00a0 God is the Good; indeed in a certain sense he is the <em>only<\/em> Good, all other goods being images or reflections of his splendor.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\">If this conclusion is correct, this forms a secondary argument against Pantheism, since the world, and we ourselves if we examine our consciences, contain much evil.\u00a0 Freedom from immorality is thus a necessary (but not sufficient) condition to be divine.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, the evils in the world are also a powerful <em>prima facie <\/em>argument against the idea that the world comes from a being that is essentially good.\u00a0 This is the <a title=\"God and Evil\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/god-and-evil\/\">Argument from Evil<\/a>. How could a good God produce a creation which has any evil in it at all, let alone the amount which we see?\u00a0 This isn&#8217;t the place for an extended theodicy, but I think something must be said here lest the Argument from Ethics be drained of all credibility whatsoever.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\">If we view God as merely an impersonal source, out of which goodness flows, like water from the tap or light from the sun, then perhaps the problem is insoluable.\u00a0 But if God is conceived of as being like a mind, then he is allowed to use long-term planning: in particular he can allow evil so long as it contributes to the greater good.\u00a0 So if there is some good which cannot be had without evil (e.g. if it turns out that suffering is the best way to build character\u2014a thesis I find, with some regret, to be quite plausible) then God might be expected to allow the evil in question.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, the moral philosophy associated with the Platonic view is not quite so unconducive to the existence of evil as it is supposed.\u00a0 I said above that God is the <em>only<\/em> Good; all other things are good only as they participate in his goodness.\u00a0 That means that any created thing, not being God, could potentially be turned away from God and become evil.\u00a0 For human beings in particular, the possible temptation to idolatry, seeking our final goodness in created things rather than in the (necessarily invisible) Creator, is built into the very nature of a world containing lesser goods, reflecting God&#8217;s more perfect yet less accessible goodness.\u00a0 Indeed, the better a created thing is, the more easily it can be turned into an idol.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\">God could, of course, act to prevent anything from \u201cgoing bad\u201d in this way, but since the whole point of Creation is to make a Universe which is, to some extent, independent from God, this would plausibly sabotage the artistic integrity of his work.\u00a0 Even in the realm of fiction, few of us are interested in reading stories where nothing bad ever happens.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, note that the existence of evil is part of the very premises of the Argument from Ethics!\u00a0 When you indignantly condemn the evil in the world, are you appealing to real objective ethical truths or merely to your own personal private sensibilities?\u00a0 If the world <em>really<\/em> contains evil, then it contains moral facts, and the Argument from Ethics says that the fundamental reality must be capable of grounding ethical truths.\u00a0 Then who are you, O man, to think you know more about goodness than Reality itself does?<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\">On the other hand, if you say it is merely your own subjective feeling about the world adapted to the needs of primate communites, then you undercut not only the Argument from Ethics but also the Argument from Evil along with it.\u00a0 In that case, God is merely indulging his own personal preferences in creating a world with butterflies and mosquitos, cancer and laughter.\u00a0 Then who are you, O ape, to judge Reality based on your own standard of right and wrong?<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\"><em>Next: <a title=\"Fundamental Reality XIII: Surprised by Something\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/fundamental-reality-xiii-surprised-by-something\/\">Surprised by Something<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It is not surprising that the Laws of Physics don&#8217;t have anything to say about right and wrong, given that the world they describe is an abstraction from our own.\u00a0 Physics describes the world in one aspect, as a pattern of interlocking relationships, but it doesn&#8217;t tell us what are the actual entities in those [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3322","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-metaphysics","category-theological-method"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3322","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3322"}],"version-history":[{"count":20,"href":"https:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3322\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3330,"href":"https:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3322\/revisions\/3330"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3322"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3322"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wall.org\/~aron\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3322"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}